Jan. 14: Where Jen actually brought SLIDES for her turn to host!

Jen

Good Morning Lobsters! Delighted to be the host this week…

John

❤️

Beate

Good evening lobsters!

Simon

I’m here!

Simon wearing a red sweater with a drawn lobster on it

John

😍

Jen

SIMON! Looking fantastic!!

Beate

Loooove the shirt! That’ll be a good pattern for when someone knits you a norwegian sweater

and it doesn’t have a hood!

John

a norweigan lobster sweater? imagine!

Simon

Yeh I’m 40 now so phasing out hoodies

Jen

So anyway

John

LOL

Jen

The wonderful Emma Jenkin suggested a topic of scarcity thinking…

John

great topic!

thank you EMMA! she’s lovely.

Jen

So lovely. And in fact John was immediately enraptured in this idea

Photo of a tweet from Emma Jenkin sayng she'd like to hear our takes on a scarcity mindset. The tweet is circled with the words YES underneath

So, let’s dive in.

Simon

Scarcity thinking…explain it to me like I’m an idiot

Beate

Explain it to me like I’m Norwegian

Jen

Here’s the Agents #nutshell of scarcity vs abundance thinking

on the left, the headline Scarcity thinking. Underneath the bullets -there will never be enough -competes to stay on top -hoards things from others-won't share knowledge -won't offer help to others -resents competition -believes times are tough -believes the pie is shrinking -thinks small and avoids risk -fears change. On the right, the headline Abundance thinking, with the bullets -There will always be more -collaborates to stay on top -generous with others -shares knowledge -Freely offers to hel others -trusts and builds rapport -welcomes copetition -strives to grow -believes the best is yet to come -believes the pie is growing -thinkgs big and embraces risk -takes ownership of change.

Jen

Scarcity: Believing there will never be enough and the pie is shrinking, more for you means less for me. Abundance, believing there will always be more and there’s more pie. More for you doesn’t mean less for me.

Beate

Oh wow they come prepared with slides.

Simon, you and I are NOT ready for this conversation!

Jen

I’m not fucking around here. Take my hosting duties seriously!

John

lol

Jen

So, other than going straight to pie…what does this bring to mind for you lot?

Beate

pie

Jen

🙄

A gif of homer simpson swinging back and forth upside down from the roof, reaching for a pie on the floor but missing

John

i always think of agencies

the idea that

they think they have all the worlds knowledge in their 4 walls – so protective of their “Thinking” and process

Simon

Interesting…thinking back to past bosses I feel like clearly they were one or the other

John

Every old white guy i know was raised on the idea of scarcity

and practiced it in their businesses

(sorry to all of my old white male bosses)

(not really)

Jen

YES! This always makes an appearance when you’re reflecting on leadership. You KNOW that kind of boss who is threatened by ideas, fears change and it totally changes the culture

Beate

Those annoying conference talks where they talk about some amazing concept or idea but refuse to share how or what. Like that’s going to make me hire you to find out? no.

Simon

I feel like w’re all going to be on the same page here as we’re all speak at conferences. And that’s abundance thinking right? Sharing your experience/knowledge is good for business. But others dont like sharing their successes and failures in case people steal

John

exactly

Jen

Agree that we are all abundance people (hence the love)

Beate

yeah. I think that’s such flawed thinking though.

If someone’s inspired by your idea, they won’t be able to just do it right away anyway.

Or, as someone said to me today “They might get our ideas, but they don’t have our heads”

Jen

haha this is funny in translation. I’m sure it sounds better in Norwegian.

Beate

Honestly, it sounds exactly the same in Norwegian

😂

Jen

but i also think that there is a very interesting nuance here around times are tough/best is yet to come

“times are tough” is such an easy way to avoid hard conversations

John

i mean – isnt silo’ing a type of scarcity mindset?

Beate

What do you mean, Jen?

Jen

What I mean is that even me, as an abundance thinker, find myself changing the way I approach certain conversations because I know it will be hard to convince clients.

It drives John nuts, but I admit that I do it. I’m protecting myself.

Beate

I don’t get the connection to abundance/scarcity?

Jen

it’s one of the contrasts in the table — and it’s one that makes me realize that I move to scarcity thinking quickly

Simon

It’s like we’re raised in scarcity thinking and you really have to work to shake that off

Beate

can you give an example?

Jen

Example: sometimes we’ll have a risky-ish idea or approach and I’ll say to John, “but they’ll never go for it, they need a win because it’s almost year-end”

Beate

aaah I see

Jen

That’s “times are tough” thinking

I also want to point out something I shared at the Storytelling Conference. Some of our organizations are set up structurally for scarcity thinking. Time to do the annual report, and we approach it from “Update what you did last year, in under XX words and supply a photo”

That’s easy, not collaborative and not creative. But it’s the process and it works and we aren’t open to new ways to work because it takes longer and is unfamilar

Beate

Haha, I feel attacked I just did that

😂

(though we are doing a whole separate donor one)

Simon

One of the sector’s biggest curses is the 12 month reporting I’d say

Jen

AGREE.

John

i think some of our charity friends use the scarcity mindset when it comes to donors in that – they are OUR donors (rather than – to quote mark phillips – we are actually one of THEIR charities)

Jen

“That would never work here” is also scarcity thinking…

John

or marketing dept arguing that the fundraisers can’t talk to their “people”

Jen

Both totally true. And we say “our donors won’t like that” or “it’s too emotional or sappy for our donors”

John

ugh

i hate this because almost 100% of the time they are wrong or have NO IDEA

i feels some swears coming on

arm waving

Beate

It’s fear though

Jen

Totally fear.

Fear of being judged is at the core of why we can’t be vulnerable…

John

that’s it jen

Beate

The reality is that many charities ARE facing scarcity, it’s not just a mindset, right? They do need to meet that year-end goal, or they’ll have to cut in services. So no wonder we end up in a scarcity mindset

John

as cave men and women – we were taught you better not stand out or be vulnerable…

you’d get stoned

not in a good way

yes but then it is a race to the bottom

isnt it?

Jen

Absolutely true. So it’s really easy to play it safe, keep it 10% cheaper and 1% better in response

John

you’re dead in the water

Simon

Yes fair point Bea…fundraisers and charities are operating in a scarcity mindset. It’s pushed on us by funders and boards a lot of the time

But that’s not going to bring substantial change

Beate

true

John

is my chat on???

Jen

It’s pushed on us from every angle. “And we’re the ones who have to keep the lights on!”

John

i can SEE my messages

Jen

Yes, we can hear you weirdo

Simon

Where’s John gone?

Jen

John?

JOHN?!

John

ah.

Jen

Did you scarcify yourself out of the chat?

John

you guys arent validating me

😭

Beate

wtf is going on

Jen

I dodged your cave man and cave woman comment

🙄

John

sigh

Beate

hahaha

Jen

Ok anyway

Beate

I’m sorry

that was scarce of us

lets abundantly let John know that he is in fact here

John

continue jen

Jen

I was also thinking

Remember at IFC a few years ago…

Headline left Old power values. Headline right New power values. Left Managerialism, institutionalism, representative governance. Right Informal, opt-in decision making, self-organisation, networked governance. Left Exclusivity, competition, authority, resource consolidation. Right Open source collaboration, crowd wisdom, sharing. Right Discretion, confidentiality, separation between private and public spheres. Right Radical transparency. Left Professionalism, specialisation. Right Do-it-ourselves, maker-culture. Right Long-term affiliation and loyalty, less overall participation. Right Short-term, conditional affiliation, more overall participation. Source Jeremy Heimans and Henry Timms.

Made me realize these are very aligned in thinking…

Jeremy did the plenary

Beate

Okay but seriously though:

What do you do, if in fact you are in charge of keeping the lights on.

Simon

Is this why the charity sector is doomed?

Beate

You can’t really afford to take big risks, because yes big risks big rewards but also BIG RISK

What do you do?

Jen

Simon, I think you spelled “humanity” wrong

John

but we often arent talking about big risks

i know we arent

we’re talking about sounding human and shit

if thats a big risk then we really are fucked

Simon

Small tests, little risks

Jen

Yes to small tests, little risks

Beate

We may have wandered off topic into one of Johns usual rants about how people don’t listen to him

Jen

And also yes to staying true to the donors and volunteers who have been with you along the way…and not saying yes to new and shiny things that are mission drifty…

Beate

wait now i’m confused..

didn’t you say that charities don’t want to take big risk because of a scarcity mindset – but now we’re not asking them to take risk..?

John

i didnt say that… i said that they see appearing human as being risky…

Jen

Asking them to take calculated risks

Educated and thoughtful risks

John

lots of nuances

Jen

Any closing thoughts, or time for a lobster fact?

A cricket riding on a tumbleweed all of a sudden…

John

i love lobster facts

Beate

there is an abundance of lobster facts

John

like how unfair it is that they wont swim to norway?

Beate

😒

hit us Jen

Jen

OK!

Did you know…

Simon

Drumlobsterroll

John

LOL

Jen

That lobsters use their claws for different things…?

Lobsters use their claws to catch food and battle predators and other lobsters. The larger of the two claws is called the crusher claw and the smaller claw is called the pincer or cutter claw.

Simon

Crusher!

Jen

So, if we were actually lobsters, john the lefty would be really like crusher!!

John

the crusher claw is tastier too

esp with drawn butter

Simon

Like Jen

John

LOL

Jen

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

now, this comes with a caveat

Beate

the crusher claw comes with a caveat?

Jen

This is from a Maine lobster, here in North America, so Norwegian lobsters and Scottish Lobsters could be wildly different…unless they are all related because they just walk along the ocean floor, as Bea thinks…

John

imagine

Simon

I need to get to Maine

Beate

I feel like you’re all misrepresenting my previous statments on lobsters migrating.

Jen

It’s too funny not to

John

maine is LOVELY

Jen

JOHN: “where is this lobster from, waitress” WAITRESS: “the sea”

Beate

hahah

Simon

lol

John

🧐

Beate

And it wasn’t even a norwegian waitress

Jen

A Norwegian waitress would have NONE of John’s nonsense

John

haha – THAT’s TRUE

Jen

remember that wine bar in Oslo? I thought she was going to cold deck you for asking too many questions

Jen

Ok lobster lovers, let’s wrap this up. Lots of love to you all… SIMON WE SEE YOU IN A FEW DAYS!

SImon

Fuck me John’s restaurant questions

Abundance thinking

John

haha

i can’t help it!

Beate

I’m sad you’re not seeing me 🙁

Simon

Tickets still available!

(Insert link here)

Beate

Ooh, are we official enough that we start plugging stuff now?

John

hell YES

Jen

Yes, when we keep it classy!

Beate

ok everyone come to norway with Jen and me for our cheese-and-legacies-getaway

bye?

Jen

YES! Simon, it’s right around St Patrick’s Day. GTFO of Dublin!

Beate

I was plugging it for other paying people, Jen

🙄

Jen

Them too!

OK, later guys!

XOXO

John

THANKS LOBSTERS!

Bea

byyyeeee

Simon

Byeeeee x

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