March 3: Corona virus – how will it impact charities? Posted byBeate March 9, 2020March 9, 2020 2 Comments on March 3: Corona virus – how will it impact charities? John RECORD BUTTON – ACTIVATED! welcome to a brand new #chatcast friends Jen Bea this time next week I’ll be landing in Oslo!!! John it’s a bright new day and today i thought we should chat about everyone’s HOT topic : CORONAVIRUS and it’s implications on our sector in the days ahead Beate No Jen, you won’t – that will have been yesterday ? Jen Right! Time zones and dates are my kryptonite! Beate And directions Sorry John – will try not to derail any more! Jen Thank you for hosting today, John? What’s on your mind? John Simon cant join us since – he came down with something… so Beate Is Simon quarantined? John its just three lobsters today Beate coronalobster John he should be. Beate permanently Jen it would be a safer option if he was quarantined John i will try to resist making light of this TOO much – since – that’s usually simons job and two… this is pretty serious Beate Yeah Jen pandemics usually are John we have colleagues who are literally locked awauy Beate Same and i was in a meeting with THEIR colleagues today… I made them stand in the corner John I talked to my pal Giovanna – who lives in Milan yesterday everything is shut down there she said “Schools are closed and most people are working from home these weeks. Cinemas, theatres, museum, bars and churches had to close. All public events are being cancelled over the next two- three months. ” Jen what’s spreading faster, the virus or the panic? John I would say both! John so i do have a couple specific things we can gab about one is legacy gifts and the other is premiums… which one do we unpack first Jen from the sublime to the ridiculoyus John are you new here Jen? Beate i don’t think there’s panic Jen Definitely lots of stockpiling stories on the news Beate I think there’s a measured and serious response to what IS very serious – even if most of us will be perfectly fine. John i hope youre right BEATE Jen she usually is Beate The whole managment team of one of our orgs over here is currently quarantined after meeting with a confirmed case (before they were confirmed). Obviously, that’s going to impact some stuff. John right? Jen one of our clients is travelling at the end of the month and has already been told that working from home is likely Beate But I think the larger impact is going to be on the expectation of panic and unrest. LIke, if you anticipate the economy tanking – are you going to spend your money on donations? Jen my brother in law (works in tech) has had all his travel suspended until end of april at the earliest John as a direct mail fella – i’ve wondered for those collageues of ours who heavily rely on premiums (from china) in the direct mail what if shipments of labels stop getting shipped Beate Shipments are seriously impacted John this is a real question BTW lol Beate It’s really slow getting goods shipped out of China at the moment That’s not about stopping spread, it’s about people in actual china doing the shipping being sick or quarantined serious answer Jen i care much more about the medicine that is not going to be shipped, but defo premiums will be impacted John so – you have a heavy premium acqusiiton program in Australia… now what? Jen what will be the impact on charities who rely on that form of donor acquisition? John exactly aside from the obvious Beate Maybe a good time to rethink and test non-premium aquisition and rely on quality and connection instead…? ? Jen YES! that would be a wonderful outcome Beate or hey – disease doesn’t spread through the web! throwback to last weeks chatcast Feb. 25: Clearly, everyone should stop doing digital The blackbaud digital stats are out, and guest lobster Claire Kerr has words with Simon and Beate about it. And John is..well, there, I guess. John so maybe this virus is a good thing? didnt they show the air in CHINA was better because of all the quarentines? Beate Yeah, drastcially Seriously though, I do think we should all think through which parts of our programs might get impacted, what events might we have to change, what goods and services might not get delivered, etc, and plan accordingly. And for gods sake have insurance if you rely on event income Figure out who can and cannot work from home, how often does the office get cleaned properly, have routines. John i think there is a lot of – how bad is this going to get? Jen and this is just about fundraising. what about program staff on the ground in different parts of the world–some charities will have to change their programs John but good advice Beate. Beate Same for program delivery – how can this impact us if the worst happens. Like Jen just said ??♀️ Jen i know you wanted to talk about legacies too john but we have to also consider what will happen to larger fundraising conferences John let’s talk about conferences first Beate We just had this discussion at our conference planning meeting today Jen oh my goddess, how often do charity offices get cleaned… in my experience working at a charity…NEVER Beate Someone should look into that. With soap Jen what was the discussion Bea? John we started to hear rumours that some of our fav conferences are talking about plan B’s Beate So our conference is in september how do we prepare for an eventual plan B if the outbreak is still going. Jen Simon and Nikki were so ahead of the curve with Fundraising Everywhere! John lol… who knew Beate Apparantly that’s how the Spanish flu rolled, there was a smaller outbreak in the spring, quieter over summer and the real wave in the fall. If that happens, it impacts the whole fall conference roster. Jen Maybe Simon is a criminal mastermind who has created this whole thing Beate He IS conspicuously missing this conversation.. John LOL Beate But yeah. You do need to plan for a) how do we contain this if it’s still going but not to cancel everything-level, and b) what do you do if you do have to cancel with a) I mean hygience, disinfection, how to make it safer for a large crowd to be in the same room. hygience, that’s a new word John and like you said B if they have set up their conference without sufficent insurance you are a bit screwed Beate Yep. Don’t plan ANYTHING that would break the bank if it gets cancelled John an you imagine if youre a 1,000 conference and you had to refund everything and everyone? Beate and still pay all your vendors ’cause contracts. Jen My mum wrote a book about pandemics. Think imma dust that off for bedtime reading with my teenagers Beate oh wow! That is SUCH a dramatic cover! John LOL Jen Right? John even as international speakers – such as ourselves i’m really starting to consider my plans for the next while Jen John do you remember the Congress during SARS? Or was it H1N1? Beate Wait were you both there for SARS? So old John hmmm Jen Fuck you Bea Beate lol John i dont remember Jen I remember they gave us all hand sanitizer pens John ouf RIGHT Beate SARS was 2003. H1n1 was 2010 or something. Jen and showed us all the different ways to greet without shaking hands John i think i thought mine was a mouth spray Beate John lol. that will be about it. the full body huggers WILL NOT LIKE this Beate I’ve been so cautious about what I touch these past few days! Which you probably should be anyway to be fair John (name of your sex tape beate?) Beate ? Jen I’ve never been more aware of how much I touch my face Beate JEN WHAT WILL WE DO NEXT WEEK YOU’RE RIGHT OFF A PLANE!! John lol Beate SANTISE YOURSELF AND THEN WE’LL HUG Jen Deal Beate It’s so unfair that pollen season coincides with don’t touch your face season ☹ John ok – we need to wrap up soon so ill ask one more question Beate Do lobsters get corona virus John do you think that legacy giving programs could see an uptick – due to the unfortunate fact that maybe there will be an uptick in deaths? and is this good or bad for charities? discuss Jen oouf Beate Maybe and no don’t even ask that question my god So inappropriate ? John no? Jen Another consideration: will more people be writing (or updating) wills now? John right? Jen that would also be a good outcome…more people writing/updating wills Beate Either way – an uptick now would mean a downtick (is that a word?) in the coming years, so. John well not necessarly Beate why not? John we’d just be speeding the inevitable up Beate That’s what I said John oh LOL Beate you’re agreeing with me by saying you disagree with me? John that would be a very lobster thing – wouldnt it Beate true In conclusion: wash your hands. John in all seriousness – i do hope all of our friends and colleagues – arouind the world – stay safe and healthy… Jen Agree. wash your hands! John and hopefully this thing starts to sort itself out… Beate According to Trump it’ll all be fine when the weather is warmer so ??♀ Jen Simon, maybe you can let us know how you plan to unleash this on the planet… John lobster fact! in the spirit of todays coronaversation i have a lobster fact Jen I LOVE a themed lobster fact! #swoon Beate can I for the record say I object to the standard you’re both setting by relating lobster facts to themes John LOL Jen Objection noted. Moving on. John considering the fact that stores are being emptied When food is scarce, lobsters can turn cannibal and dine on smaller lobsters. Jen You already used this fact! Beate hahahahahaha John did i???? SHIT WTF? Jen I think you have the virus. Beate It is REALLY not that many lobster facts to check through, John! John ok ok hold on does anyone want to guess the record Jen for how many more times can he fuck up the lobster fact? Beate hahahahah John for the largest lobster roll? Beate oh.. eating lobster rolls, so much better than eating the kids. Jen I think I just heard Mark Phillips’ ears perk up John LOL guesses? Beate Side note: Cannibal lobster fact was in the Mark Phillips episode. John No googling Beate what are we talking about, weight, square kilometers, height in american forearms? Jen biggest lobster roll… literally no idea. like one of those giant submarine sandwiches they eat at american fairs? John 180 FEET! Beate I do not know how much that is Neither does 90% of the world metric please John FFS Beate Beate FFS John John there is a place called Shediac, New Brunswich – here in CANADA 180 feet! Shediac takes back title for world’s longest lobster roll | CBC News Shediac has taken back the title for having the world’s longest lobster roll with the finished product measuring at 180 feet and two inches. John sigh 180 feet Beate Ah length Is that seriously just a bunch of baguettes in a line? Very unimpressive Jen that’s a serious motherfucker of a lobster rolll John it’s like BIG just look at the damn link the made the roll themselves Beate – sheesh Beate I did Not impressed John you are a tough crowd John bah. now I NEED TO GO WASH my hands after this chat Beate Weeeell, I mean. I think we could probably beat that record John stay safe gang. Jen XOXO lobsters John how norweigan of you to say that BEATE see you next time! Beate Oh – but the thing was a fundraiser, did you see? 350 tickets at $20. To watch bread cook for ten hours I’m talking to myself now, aren’t I John sigh RECORD BUTTON – OFF…. Did this chat make you laugh? Or think? Find us annoying? You should totally share that with your friends.