March 11: Andy is very young. Posted byBeate March 12, 2020March 12, 2020 Leave a comment on March 11: Andy is very young. *Beate added Andy King* Beate Hey! Just trying to get on the wifi – hang on. Is everyone here? John im not everyone. but i am here. Andy I am also present John WORD UP ANDY welcome Andy HI FRIENDS Feel like I’ve MADE IT Jen You have buddy!!! Welcome! Simon? Are you driving or parking or some shit? Beate Or ignoring us? Jen Andy, Simon is by FAR the sketchiest Lobster in terms of how he rolls into our chatcast John mmm lobster rolls i think Simon is still off maasterminding world domination Andy I feel like you should’ve expected that going into this tbf Simon This is harrison dada is driveing Jen SEE? John oh sweet lord Beate Harrison, make your dad pull over! Simon Sure! Andy Harrison how was the sonic movie? Simon ? Beate ? John still feeling on top of the world Andy? welcome to the jungle Beate Okay so topic as per Andys suggestion: How every fundraiser always thinks the grass is greener – other causes are easier to fundraise for. Andy – wanna start with your thoughts? John is this thing on? Beate yes John wow. nice intro Beate Beate Listen – I’ve said I’m not following the standards you and jen ar setting I don’t have to turn this thing on – it’s a chat. I just start John hohoho Jen Hey this is also a unique chatcast because Bea and I are together! In Norway! Andy It’s definitely something I’ve noticed in the last couple of months… one of the first conversations I have with a lot of people is about how their cause is either difficult to communicate or not as ‘hot topic’ as it could be. Today I had a mental health charity tell me they ‘wish they were a cancer charity’ for example And I just think people often stop seeing the wood for the trees and need to engage with how awesome their charity is, rather than what it’s not, y’know? Beate WAIT STOP THE TOPIC! WE FORGOT TO MAKE FUN OF ANDY FOR BEING YOUNG! Andy HAHAHA Jen Andy’s typing speed is 1000000x faster than that joker Mark Phillips Andy I’m as old as fundraising UK and that’s an institution I’ll be having none of this Jen Ahh to be young Beate Jazz hand greeting from live chatcast in same room! No handshakes. Beate Back to topic: I think when you say something’s easier to raise money for, they’re also forgetting that that means the work is that much bigger Jen We had a hilarious convo in Colorado this year about how charities always think other causes are easier. And 2 in the room was the Space Foundation and a charity that uses horses for therapy healing Everyone else almost broke their eyeballs with eyerolls Andy 10000% this John haha…. i forgot about the horse one… Jen John was like: “you’ve got space!” Beate hahah John yah “space” is easy… Jen “rocketships and planets and astronauts and shit” Beate I have a friend who raises money for fucking marshes. Which NO ONE has fond memories of. Rubber boots stuck in the wet shit dirty socks trudging across one fearing for your life? Jen I just punched Bea Beate ow! whyyyy Jen I love wetlands! frogs and salamanders and songbirds and shit Beate Did you seriously have fun in a wetland as a kid when you had to trek across one in the rain and your boots got stuck?? Jen That was more fun than many Love family adventures. John Andy – isn’t it US – the fundraisers that make this so hard for or on ourselves? what we raise money for is complicated how we go about it is complicated Andy 100% People may not love marshes but they do love the planet. John the people who ask us to do it want it complicated Andy We decide to raise money for what rather than why so complications ensue John YES BF Jen So young and so bright! Beate oooh nominate for lightbult moment of the year 2020 Beginners luck? Andy ??? John i have yet to enccounter a charity anywhere that has said to me – you know John – what we do is simple… Beate haha yea Jen It’s also a story we tell ourselves because it’s harder to admit other problems like leadership or budgets or boards…? maybe? Andy 100%. When you ask someone what they do and they take a deep breath in and you just go ‘oh heeeere we go’ John exactly. Jen Right? Like “buckle up for the bitching” Beate kind of what I do when someone ask me what I do? how do you describe what the fuck a fundraiser is in a language that doesnth have a word for it Andy I mean that is. Fair challenge. John so how can we make this a helpful conversation for people? Andy I think there’s definitely an excuse culture too. Like telling ourselves we’re too old to type faster 😉 Beate heyheyhey! No mocking of the typing speed of this group dude Jen Dude that was borderline to be booted from this chat. I’ve got grey hair now and I’m not fucking around. Andy Hahaha I like to live dangerously Beate young stupidity Jen Andy DANGER King Beate Dandy John how long have you and beate been drinking for Jen? Beate We’re….not! Beate well except that one beer for lunch Jen ? John ? Beate well, Jen had two Jen True. Andy I guess it’s about noticing the people who are owning their cause and what they’re doing with it? Beate totally! Jen We also have to talk about the fact that staff turnover and new learning curves plays a huge role in this Beate Also to stop thinking that your yardstick is wordl domination or that you should convince the world at large to support you Rather than look at what the strength of your particular cause is, and finding those who already think that is really important Andy You definitely see people try a scattergun/mass appeal approach rather than a focused few and trying to resonate with them. Jen Totally Bea. Focus on the donors that love you and not all those who don’t. Andy Which I totally get. It’s totally how I play video games – spray and pray. Beate hahah the difference: that FUCKING WORKS in video games! I always beat the boys at fighting games with spray and pray. The boys did not like it. I was accused of cheating. Andy (Still waiting for Simon to fight me on smash bros) Jen My 15 year old son would give you a run for your money. Beate they’re pretty close in age, too Andy Hahahah John Like this: Jen NICE with the slides!!! #keener John the new donor pyramid? not really new anymore Beate ? Andy Oooh I LOVE this John helps you decide where to spend your time and effort right? Beate For sure Andy One charity I’ve worked with used to nail it by just ensuring all beneficiary feedback, where appropriate, was circulated round all staff on a daily basis We had stories and a sense of meaning pouring out of our EARS John ❤ Jen ❤ Beate If you’re a cancer charity, don’t worry about people who give to puppies. And if you’re a puppy charity don’t worry about child sponsorships. And if you’re the marshes people, only worry about Jen and forget everyone else (don’t punch me again) Jen No promises. John that’s right becasue there are people who care about the puppies. and people who care about the marshes. and people who care… etc Andy I look forward to hearing about all the marsh based direct mail Jen receives in the coming weeks Jen Imagine! That would be amazing. If chatcast became a prospecting pool for our colleagues. John chatcast TM Beate a shit business idea with only four prospects in the pool John does anyone else get the feeling that harrison didnt pass along the “dad pull over message”? Beate hahahah Siiiiimon? He’s gonna do a John “Alright, we’re wrapping up” “Hey guys, I’m here, where are we?” John ha John i’d like to see that – or he’ll show up just to boot andy off. Andy This seems on brand Beate So does anyone have a cause that they secretly think “wow that must be tough to fundraise for!”? Whether they’ve succeded or not I guess John the ones i think of- – i jsut look at them and go – how can they possibly raising any money with this crap Andy I will admit, my heart goes out to domestic abuse charities Jen I think ones that are about helping offenders and/or prisoners when they come back into communities gotta be a tough slog Beate Why do you think they’re hard to raise money for, Andy? Andy I think there’s such a ‘I’d NEVER get myself in that situation’ misinformation out there & it’s a difficult topic to get people to engage with John interesting. Andy You hear it takes someone, on average, 5.5 years to leave an abusive relationship And some people think ‘well I wouldn’t deal with it for a day’ Beate Does our newly established rule still go though? That would only true if you’re trying to raise money from *anyone* rather than those who really care about that cause? Andy Maybe – hard to say. Jen Could be. Also could be that one donor said one thing one day and it became amplified… that old chestnut about “donor complaints” Beate What about prisoners reform, like Jen said? Jen Yah, I know it’s important work, and some people will really care about it, but can’t be easy Beate If Simon was here, he could tell his story about how those causes are good to ask for foundation money for Andy I see Beate’s point though – there is definitely an audience prime to support them, and an audience who would be a waste of time Beate Okay guys – entering wrap up phase Andy Foundations are made up of people too, though, so it still has to resonate Beate What’s the most golden fundraising opportunity? top of the pyramid? Is there one? Jen it will be the one closest to each fundraiser’s heart. either that or sick puppies stuck in space Beate ? John ❤ Beate good conclusion Andy Won’t ANYBODY think of the PUPPIES Beate okay ready for lobster fact? John im ready Beate okay. It’s not topical. Jen lobster fact! lobster fact! Beate It IS however timely and what times are we living in currently? Jen pandemic? Beate yup Andy ? Beate There is a lobster disease called epizootic shell disease (epizootic is a funny word) John wtf? Beate It’s a bacterial infection that makes lobsters impossible to sell as food, eating away at their shells and sometimes killing them. Andy That’s it. I’m fundraising for lobsters. Beate hahaha Jen ? Beate For this excellent joke, we will keep you un-booted and boot Simon instead Andy Hahahaha *Jen Love removed Simon Scriver from the chat* Beate hohohoh Jen I hope i didn’t just traumatize Harrison “dada….DADA….your friends!!!!” Beate Alright guys. Jen and I have excellent food to eat and wine to drink and fundraisers to entertain and learn to and from and surfaces to disinfect gotta go! love love love Jen Nice work Andy! Andy Enjoyyyy ? That was really fun, thanks for inviting me ? John thanks andy! Beate thanks for coming, great to have you ? Jen You’re welcome back anytime, and you’ll outlive us all so you can carry the torch… Beate *done* There, happy John? I turned it off. John meh Jen OK Andy now we are going to boot you and bring Simon back in. Byeeeeeeeee *Jen Love added Simon Scriver to the chat* *Jen Love removed Andy King from the chat* … Simon Sorry! Did this chat make you laugh? Or think? Find us annoying? You should totally share that with your friends.